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Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Janaki, Jun 25, 2017.

  1. Recyan

    Recyan Moderator

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    You don't have to google and note.
    You don't have to note anything in these websites. The data ( composition of food stuffs) is already there in them. Just start using one of them, it's easy. If you get stuck somewhere, someone here will get you on the way.
     
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  2. Anup Singh

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    Again, adrenal fatigue?
    Looks like few factors pointing to that direction except for ONE. The sugar levels tend to drop lower on Adrenal Fatigue.

    Up the night dose of Ashvagandha.

    Discussion or fight? Sorry if that sounds intrusive :)

    Cut out caffeine or reduce it to bare minimum.
    Pl ask your doc to write tests for "Adrenal fatigue".
    Adrenal fatigue suppresses immune system. (one symptom). Not sure if that explains your susceptibility to cold and fever, etc.

    For everyone of us here, blood sugar not declining is a mystery. Normally, it drops from the very meal that one switches to LCHF.

    Keep us posted and just hang in there.
     
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  3. Janaki

    Janaki Well-Known Member

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    @Recyan ok. Got it. Will do. Thank you.
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    @Anup Singh :dance:definitely healthy discussions.No fights. :)
    I am not on Ashwagandha. And I am not susceptible to colds etc I said. I will try asking my Dr but not sure how he would react to a request for a test for Adrenal fatigue.
     
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  4. Anup Singh

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    Pl start with night dose of 500mg/day wef this day :)

    Tell him/her that you are trying to understand your immunity issue and if adrenal fatigue is a reason :)
    Cortisol test would be included in that.
     
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  5. Janaki

    Janaki Well-Known Member

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    Ok here is my eating pattern.
    7 am, 9-30 am : Bullet coffee and tea. (VCO and Amul cream)
    10-30: another coffee or tea if I feel hungry.
    12 to 12-30: after ACV with water ,one lemon and salt,
    Lunch consisting of
    Two different low carb vegetable dishes,one with coconut and mung or channa dhall/ a little sprouts. The choice is never a high carb vegetable. NO RICE... NO FRUITS.
    Eaten with 2 tbsp of VCO, 1 tbsp of ghee.

    4 pm: Bullet tea with Amul cream and VCO.
    A few nuts or flax if very hungry by 5-30 or 6.

    8 pm: dinner:- After ACV, mostly a stew or a soup with butter. Or leftover veggies eaten the same way as at lunch,with 50-60 gm of Paneer sautéed in ghee.
    This is all. An occasional indulgence of a few coconut pieces or if very thirsty a glass of very thin buttermilk from hung curd also happen on some days. I know buttermilk can be replaced with lemon tea or salted lime juice. Will try.

    Advice me how I can make this a low cal meal. May be with a salad in place of one veggie! Will do that. Thanks a lot in advance.



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    @Anup Singh ji ok but I have no immunity issue till now!!! I was saying again and again that I NEVER get a cold or some such infection. I thought I made it clear. Will start on Ashwagandha from tomorrow for sure.
     
  6. Vinay Raj

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    @Janaki my ideal changes. Please make changes as appropriate, possible and practical.

    Coffee (2) /Tea Black (2)/ Green (unlimited) as needed, but only with VCO and no more than 2tsp-1tbsp per serving or coconut milk (100ml/serving )
    Drop the nuts and diary for about 10 days. That means no hung curd/paneer/cheese/etc. Only exception about 1tbsp amul cream if needed
    Ghee as needed to about 2-3 tbsp / day
    Eat only twice a day and time for last meal today to first meal tomorrow min 12 hours max 18 hours as much as possible
    Greens as liberally as possible (unlimited), coconut fresh grated (unlimited) and homemade soup too.They make a variation of thenga-jeera-melagu rasam with like literally 3-4g urud dal and its awesome and i used it a lot these days when fasting. Drinking about 2-3 glasses/ today. I found a lot of soup ideas in the youtube paleo tamil cooking channel, which I have forwarded to folks at home.

    My guess is that there is not enough rest with so much eating for liver to reset itself. This should do it. Again this is kind of ideal world and extreme. See what will work and adapt accordingly.
     
  7. Janaki

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    @Vinay Raj ok. Will try to incorporate your suggestions as much as possible. Thanks a ton. Yup, I can make a no dhall version of Mysore Rasam with coconut pepper and jeera. Sounds like a good option. Will stay away from nuts and dairy. So fats in meals would be only coconut, VCO and ghee am I right? Where will the proteins come from? Sprouts?

    My guess is that there is not enough rest with so much eating for liver to reset itself
    Had a good laugh at this. :dance:
     
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  8. Anup Singh

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    Read it wrong. My bad.
    It's already ok.

    Since your FBS is always high, start going for morning walks, before your coffee.
     
  9. Vinay Raj

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    @Janaki If I were you, I would not worry about protein that much for about a month, when there is a lot of weight to lose. Diary protein is as bad as carbs and body will lose some muscle initially, but will quickly become lean body mass sparing when on low carb diets and low BS. Others hormones will come into play to handle that. Trust it. This is just to see what reaction diary/nuts etc etc are having.
     
  10. Janaki

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    :) thats ok. @Anup Singh morning walks are just not possible with an elderly bedridden MIL at home and loads of morning chores with a daily Pooja at home too to prepare for. Wish I could. Hate to give such excuses.
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    @Vinay Raj thats great. I was just curious assuming I need them all. :) Also wanted to know about butter. Since I have a packet left with me and if ghee is more preferable I would make ghee out of it.
     
  11. Vinay Raj

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    @Janaki just do this for a week and lets see the numbers. If butter would get waste before then, make it into ghee, else let it just stay.
     
  12. Janaki

    Janaki Well-Known Member

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    @Vinay Raj yes...got it. :)
     
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  13. Hariharan

    Hariharan It's the carbs, stupid!

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    @Janaki
    I can't see anything wrong with your diet.
    If your diet is wrong, then that'll put much of what we say about food in this forum on its head!!!
    I can quibble about mung or chana, but that'll be nit picking. After all we say here that 30 gm carbs per meal is ok.

    You're eating twice in a 8 hour window with a snack throw in.
    This is not a violation of any LCHF or IF principle that I know of.

    You're doing IF 16:8. Coffee/tea without carbs or proteins is allowed in the 16 hr fasting window at least in this forum.

    With this diet, why you're not even dropping water wt is a mystery.
    Unless of course DH is feeding you high carb delicacies when you're sleeping! :D:D:D:D

    Of course, there are stricter interventions possible such as not eating.
    But what I want to know is what's wrong with this diet?
    It seems perfectly in tune with what we say here and it matches all LCHF & IF criteria.

    That's why the only thing I can think of is some factor external to the diet, like stress, thyroid etc.

    Veterans, Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  14. Anup Singh

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  15. arun kumar

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    @Janaki
    Your diet is very good.
    It's only matter of time that your BS level is not reducing.
    When BS start falling, your Wt will also start reducing.
    In case of post menopause some times it will take some time to reduce wt.
    So continue LCHF and wait.
     
  16. Hariharan

    Hariharan It's the carbs, stupid!

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    Ah! One more external factor beyond diet.
     
  17. Janaki

    Janaki Well-Known Member

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    @Hariharan thanks for acknowledging my diet as right. And LOL about DH feeding me carbs.
    @arun kumar yes being Post menopausal is a fact.
    @Hariharan if I had known all these factors would sabotage my diet I would not have really started this at all.
     
  18. Hariharan

    Hariharan It's the carbs, stupid!

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    That's like throwing the baby with the bathwater!
    Anyway, all these are just theories. We still don't know the root cause. We're only guessing at the saboteurs!!
    Prateeksha!!!
     
  19. Janaki

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    @Hariharan :amen:
     
  20. Kshridhar

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    You are doing the right things. Wait for your pot of gold. It is coming your way.. you already received a lot of inputs that are beneficial. Just wait for the aha moment to knock your door soon. Use fatsecret.com extensively. It has been extremely useful for me in breaking down the carb content for each meal after a few weeks you will be expert on this matter. Wish you all the best.
     
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